Роберта, мать его, Паттисона как он мне не нравится!
что там у Тома с его Шантель? после того, как фаны написали открытое письмо с требованием прекратить этот дурацкий пиар и не обсасывать личную жизнь Тома, тем более, в такой форме, а в инете стали грозить акция в Европе против Флипсайда, все как-то затихло. Многие так и подозревали, что все стихнет, когда ТН выйдут из молчания и выпустят альбом.
by Melanie Filed under Fandom, Melanie, North America
Основной смысл письма - попытка заставить посмотреть на нынешнюю ситуацию с Tokio Hotel с точки зрения большинства фано так, как они видят ее в данный момент.
Фаны понимают, что группа занята работой над альбомом, но практически пропало общение фанов непосредственно с членами группы и получение новостей от самих ребят из Tokio Hotel. Пиар в исполнении Cherrytree Records, а именно, короткие сообщения в чате, носят необоснованный характер и только подчеркивают, что информации от членов группы фаны не получат в будущем. Фаны понимают и уважают частную жизнь артистов, и грубая игра на отношениях Тома и Шантель - это вмешательство в личную жизнь Тома, если такие отношения, действительно, существуют, или назойливый пиар.
Cherrytree превращается в службу знакомств. И создается впечатление, что сотрудники Cherrytree поощряют откровения Шантель в интернете. Конечно, большинство фано будут рады за Тома и Шантель, но, это их личное дело.
Фаны не хотят знать интимные подробности личной жизни Тома. Он сам принимает решение, если захочет поделиться. Фаны теряют доверие и уважение к Cherrytree из-за ее беззастенчивой саморекламы. Немецкий фан-клуб (вероятно один из самых надежных источников информации о группе) продолжается каждую неделю дискредитировать (опровергать) информацию Cherrytree, и создается ощущение того, что ей нельзя доверять больше. Чем больше Cherrytree будет признавать и поощрять такой пиар, тем хуже он будет получаться.
Полный текст:
This is an attempt to very respectfully ask you to take a moment, and look at the current Tokio Hotel situation from the angle most of us are seeing it from at this point.
From what I understand, you guys are under a lot of pressure from TH fans to share news and information and answer questions constantly. I also have gathered that you are all very friendly guys, and enjoy making contact with people and getting to know them. However, I feel that it is necessary at this point to get across to you the way you are now coming off to the vast majority of Tokio Hotel fans on the internet.
First of all, it will not kill us to wait for information until it is something that can be officially announced and confirmed. The constant teasing wears thin. Yes, it has been a very long time since Tokio Hotel was in the spotlight, and yes, fans are getting anxious and impatient. However, I feel that rather than encouraging fans to find something better and more constructive to do with their time during the wait (as it is NOT uncommon for artists to have huge gaps of time in between releases and/or promo), it seems as if you are throwing out little bits of information to keep them hanging on. It is not enough, and it never will be. All it serves to do is appease fans immediately, and leave them wanting for more five minutes later. It is turning much unwarranted and undeserved negativity on the artists themselves, as well, as they are who the fans truly wish to hear from, and every new piece of insubstantial news or info you give us only serves as a reminder that it is not coming from them.
Second, not to be rude, but I find myself wondering if Cherrytree is turning into a dating service, or if you guys are confusing your artists for Disney stars. For the last three years, it has been made very clear to us that the guys in Tokio Hotel are very private people. We have come to understand this, and more than that - many of us have come to work very hard to help them maintain that privacy. We care about them, and we respect them. And quite frankly, it is an insult, and feels like a kick in the face, to see someone we are largely unfamiliar with talking about their personal lives so freely. Of course, Chantelle is only answering the questions that are being thrown at her, which may give you some indication that people wouldn’t be asking the questions if they didn’t want to know. But just because we are fans, and just because some of the more invasive fans are asking, does NOT mean that the questions absolutely must be answered. Beyond merely answering the questions, your staff itself is encouraging the questions, and is quite blatantly playing up the “relationship” between Tom and Chantelle. If they truly were dating? Of course, most of us would be happy for them - but again, it would be none of our business. We do not WANT to know the intimate details of Tom’s love life. And we most especially do not want to know the intimate details of his love life from his record company, or anyone else involved in the situation besides what he himself decides to share with us. We want him to be happy, and that is as far as our noses should get into it.
It appears as if, to many of us, you are sacrificing the credibility and respect you originally had from us in the name of shameless self-promotion. It has gotten to the point where the German Fanclub (arguably one of the most reliable sources of information on the net for the band) are continuing every single week to discredit your information, feeling that you cannot be trusted anymore. I cannot help but personally find your way of handling these situations unprofessional and juvenile. I am sure that you are not the only record company to have felt this level of pressure from the fans, but never before has there been this kind of issue. The more you acknowledge it and encourage it, the worse it will get.
I also understand that you guys are getting a lot of rude messages and hate right now. I believe that everything mentioned above is where this is coming from, and this is my attempt to communicate the situation in a more respectful and intelligent manner, with a hope that it could be taken seriously. I fear that these attacks you’ve already received have closed your mind and ears to criticism, but please understand that things have progressed past your being able to comfortably ignore it altogether. If there are further questions, please feel free to contact me: [email protected]
Меня смешит, что люди пытаются чего-то доказывать, когда это свидание было сшито такими блыми нитками, что только полные бизонки могли подумать, что это правда ))))
ну да, только выбирал не Том, а Черритри )))) А мне Тома было тоже жалко, потому что он выглядел глупо. А себя чего жалеть? Можно было бы жалеть, если б повелись на эту разводку ))) А так, только проржались
а меня, знаешь, даже завело слегка смотреть как Том целуется. Было интересно. Но это потому, что я все ж больше фанат Билла. Вот если бы Билл с бабой целовался, я бы даже не посмотрела, что это развод лохов )))))))))
гы)))) ну меня в другом смысле )))) Было интересно как Том это делает. А представить на месте Шани Билла, Жору, Йоста (нужно подчеркнуть) было делом техники )))))
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06.12.2009 в 19:36мать его,Паттисона-
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06.12.2009 в 19:58как он мне не нравится!
что там у Тома с его Шантель?
после того, как фаны написали открытое письмо с требованием прекратить этот дурацкий пиар и не обсасывать личную жизнь Тома, тем более, в такой форме, а в инете стали грозить акция в Европе против Флипсайда, все как-то затихло. Многие так и подозревали, что все стихнет, когда ТН выйдут из молчания и выпустят альбом.
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06.12.2009 в 20:03после того, как фаны написали открытое письмо с требованием прекратить этот дурацкий пиар
Чё, серьезно? А куда они писали?
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06.12.2009 в 21:13вот, нашла. я его постила еще на сайте 19.07
by Melanie Filed under Fandom, Melanie, North America
Основной смысл письма - попытка заставить посмотреть на нынешнюю ситуацию с Tokio Hotel с точки зрения большинства фано так, как они видят ее в данный момент.
Фаны понимают, что группа занята работой над альбомом, но практически пропало общение фанов непосредственно с членами группы и получение новостей от самих ребят из Tokio Hotel. Пиар в исполнении Cherrytree Records, а именно, короткие сообщения в чате, носят необоснованный характер и только подчеркивают, что информации от членов группы фаны не получат в будущем. Фаны понимают и уважают частную жизнь артистов, и грубая игра на отношениях Тома и Шантель - это вмешательство в личную жизнь Тома, если такие отношения, действительно, существуют, или назойливый пиар.
Cherrytree превращается в службу знакомств. И создается впечатление, что сотрудники Cherrytree поощряют откровения Шантель в интернете. Конечно, большинство фано будут рады за Тома и Шантель, но, это их личное дело.
Фаны не хотят знать интимные подробности личной жизни Тома. Он сам принимает решение, если захочет поделиться. Фаны теряют доверие и уважение к Cherrytree из-за ее беззастенчивой саморекламы. Немецкий фан-клуб (вероятно один из самых надежных источников информации о группе) продолжается каждую неделю дискредитировать (опровергать) информацию Cherrytree, и создается ощущение того, что ей нельзя доверять больше. Чем больше Cherrytree будет признавать и поощрять такой пиар, тем хуже он будет получаться.
Полный текст:
This is an attempt to very respectfully ask you to take a moment, and look at the current Tokio Hotel situation from the angle most of us are seeing it from at this point.
From what I understand, you guys are under a lot of pressure from TH fans to share news and information and answer questions constantly. I also have gathered that you are all very friendly guys, and enjoy making contact with people and getting to know them. However, I feel that it is necessary at this point to get across to you the way you are now coming off to the vast majority of Tokio Hotel fans on the internet.
First of all, it will not kill us to wait for information until it is something that can be officially announced and confirmed. The constant teasing wears thin. Yes, it has been a very long time since Tokio Hotel was in the spotlight, and yes, fans are getting anxious and impatient. However, I feel that rather than encouraging fans to find something better and more constructive to do with their time during the wait (as it is NOT uncommon for artists to have huge gaps of time in between releases and/or promo), it seems as if you are throwing out little bits of information to keep them hanging on. It is not enough, and it never will be. All it serves to do is appease fans immediately, and leave them wanting for more five minutes later. It is turning much unwarranted and undeserved negativity on the artists themselves, as well, as they are who the fans truly wish to hear from, and every new piece of insubstantial news or info you give us only serves as a reminder that it is not coming from them.
Second, not to be rude, but I find myself wondering if Cherrytree is turning into a dating service, or if you guys are confusing your artists for Disney stars. For the last three years, it has been made very clear to us that the guys in Tokio Hotel are very private people. We have come to understand this, and more than that - many of us have come to work very hard to help them maintain that privacy. We care about them, and we respect them. And quite frankly, it is an insult, and feels like a kick in the face, to see someone we are largely unfamiliar with talking about their personal lives so freely. Of course, Chantelle is only answering the questions that are being thrown at her, which may give you some indication that people wouldn’t be asking the questions if they didn’t want to know. But just because we are fans, and just because some of the more invasive fans are asking, does NOT mean that the questions absolutely must be answered. Beyond merely answering the questions, your staff itself is encouraging the questions, and is quite blatantly playing up the “relationship” between Tom and Chantelle. If they truly were dating? Of course, most of us would be happy for them - but again, it would be none of our business. We do not WANT to know the intimate details of Tom’s love life. And we most especially do not want to know the intimate details of his love life from his record company, or anyone else involved in the situation besides what he himself decides to share with us. We want him to be happy, and that is as far as our noses should get into it.
It appears as if, to many of us, you are sacrificing the credibility and respect you originally had from us in the name of shameless self-promotion. It has gotten to the point where the German Fanclub (arguably one of the most reliable sources of information on the net for the band) are continuing every single week to discredit your information, feeling that you cannot be trusted anymore. I cannot help but personally find your way of handling these situations unprofessional and juvenile. I am sure that you are not the only record company to have felt this level of pressure from the fans, but never before has there been this kind of issue. The more you acknowledge it and encourage it, the worse it will get.
I also understand that you guys are getting a lot of rude messages and hate right now. I believe that everything mentioned above is where this is coming from, and this is my attempt to communicate the situation in a more respectful and intelligent manner, with a hope that it could be taken seriously. I fear that these attacks you’ve already received have closed your mind and ears to criticism, but please understand that things have progressed past your being able to comfortably ignore it altogether. If there are further questions, please feel free to contact me: [email protected]
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06.12.2009 в 22:04ой, я и не верила, но настрадалась - ужас
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